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Persona vectors form within 0.22% of pretraining and persist through alignment

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tested on OLMo-3-7B (base + post-trained variants), Apertus-8B (replication) ·May 13, 2026
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Summary

Moskvoretskii et al. (EPFL + collaborators) trace the formation of persona vectors (linear directions in activation space corresponding to high-level behavioral traits such as "evil," sycophancy, impoliteness, and humor) across the full pretraining run of OLMo-3-7B, with replication on Apertus-8B. The central finding is that these vectors emerge remarkably early — within the first 0.22% of pretraining compute on OLMo-3 — and remain effective for steering the fully post-trained instruct model. Although the core direction is present from very early checkpoints, the vectors continue to refine both geometrically (increasing alignment with the final vector) and semantically (shifting facet profiles) throughout the rest of pretraining. Different elicitation methods recover steerable vectors but emphasize distinct facets of the same persona. The work establishes persona representations as stable features of early pretraining rather than products of post-training.

Method

The authors use the publicly available pretraining checkpoints of OLMo-3-7B (17 checkpoints with denser sampling early in training) and replicate key results on Apertus-8B.

Persona vector extraction. For each checkpoint and target trait, they elicit contrasting positive and negative examples (via three methods: direct character description, dialogue, and narration) and compute difference-of-means vectors in the residual stream at multiple layers. Vectors are selected at the layer that maximizes steering efficacy on a validation set.

Steering protocol. To test a vector extracted at checkpoint τ on a target model M (which may be a later checkpoint or a post-trained variant), they add a scaled version of the vector to the residual stream during generation. Scaling is normalized relative to the target model's activation norm at that layer for comparability across training stages.

Elicitation comparison. Three distinct prompting strategies are used to elicit the same nominal persona, allowing direct comparison of the resulting vectors.

Replication. The full pipeline (early emergence, persistence, refinement) is repeated on Apertus-8B using its available checkpoints.

Key results

Extremely early emergence (RQ1). Persona vectors for the four studied traits form within the first 0.22% of OLMo-3-7B pretraining (a lower bound). Vectors extracted at these earliest successful checkpoints are already effective at steering the model.

Persistence through post-training. Vectors from very early pretraining checkpoints remain largely effective when used to steer the final post-trained Instruct model (SFT, DPO, and RLVR stages). Post-training primarily suppresses or modulates expression rather than erasing the underlying direction (with the strongest suppression observed after DPO).

Continued refinement during pretraining (RQ2). Even after the core direction appears, persona vectors continue to evolve:

Elicitation method effects. All three elicitation strategies (description, dialogue, narration) produce vectors that are effective for steering. However, vectors from different methods for the same trait often have low pairwise cosine similarity and emphasize qualitatively distinct facets.

Replication on Apertus-8B. The same qualitative pattern — early formation (within the earliest available checkpoint, ~1.4%), persistence to post-training, and ongoing refinement — holds on the second model family.

Safety implications. The paper explicitly notes that because the core representations are set so early and largely survive alignment, future work on detecting, auditing, or intervening on persona-level behavior may need to target the pretraining stage itself.

Why it matters

This is the first direct empirical measurement of when persona vectors form during training. It provides strong mechanistic support for the Persona Selection Model (PSM) by showing that the rich space of character representations is a pretraining phenomenon, with post-training acting primarily as a selector and modulator.

It introduces a new structural shape to the persona-selection cluster: pretraining temporal formation / crystallization. Prior instantiations have focused on inference-time selection, activation-level toolkits, prompt-level interventions, and fine-tuning objective effects. This finding adds the critical developmental timeline: the representations exist extremely early and then undergo prolonged refinement.

The safety implications are direct — the paper itself highlights pretraining as a potential high-leverage intervention point.

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The new shape (pretraining crystallization) is held at one example. It would be a natural candidate for codification under the concept once a second structurally comparable measurement of persona-vector formation timing appears.

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